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What is “the matter with things”? In conversation with Iain McGilchrist

What is “the matter with things”? In conversation with Iain McGilchrist

Nick Spencer speaks to Iain McGilchrist about materialism, truth, humanity, and God. 16/11/2021

Iain McGilchrist rose to public prominence with his book The Master and His Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World. Now, in his long–awaited follow up ‘The Matter with Things’, he develops his ideas about the divided brain into a remarkably detailed and comprehensive vision of reality, “a whole philosophy – … [with] new answers to the questions of what the world is and who we are.”

Nick Spencer talks to him about materialism, truth, humanity, and God. 

Listen to our previous episode with Iain McGilchrist here and read Nick Spencer’s long–read on ‘Murdering to dissect: The Master and his Emissary’ here.


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Nick Spencer

Nick Spencer

Nick is Senior Fellow at Theos. He is the author of The Landscapes of Science and Religion (OUP, 2025), Playing God: Science, Religion and the Future of Humanity (2024), and Magisteria: the entangled histories of science and religion (Oneworld, 2023). Nick is host of the podcast Reading Our Times.

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Posted 16 November 2021

Brain, Humanity, Reading Our Times, Truth

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